Mick was very slape coated " smooth" very similar to a lot of the wheeler bred dogs. That came later, he was fairly round chested, and a lump of a dog.
JP was never shy of dropping a dog in,I would cringe at some of the places , no locator. He had a wonderful confident faith in his stock. Great man to be out with, formidable drinker and a fulmidable knowledge of blood stock.