Thanks Lads for that much as I thought then. I think we will make a few up and give them ago, when I say we I mean my mate as the base of my thumbs get me feck these days. The main use would be the top of the hedge run nets they should purse twice as fast being pegged at both ends in theory with less chance of snagging crap. The hedges down here range from 3' to about 8' high banks often very thick cover and 5' to 8' wide so a lot of hedge crawling, they flail them in the autumn so we end up with lots of black thorn bit on the ground in the hedge. Some times as the rabbit is pursing up in a ru