Always with opinions on hearsay they shouldnt really comment unless seen with there own eye's. I bought pups down of mate of TP about 20 yr ago and we bred them down to dog mate had up here got sone right good stuff the lad i got the pups of always told to bring bitchs back to teddy but i took the advice of lads up this way and used other stuff that never really worked out never reproduced on what we had. It was years later when i got other stuff realiesed where it went wrong.