samba 534 Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 give mine a bowl of cereals a few hours before Quote Link to post
tyson 1 Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 dogs need energy so you cant leave them too long...if lamping at night you should feed em around 12 hours before, but something light and a good meal night before...and take an electrolyte along with you to replenish lost minerals while working Quote Link to post
Guest st budeaux fox Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 feed same time - late each night or when you get in from lamping. Quote Link to post
FastDogz 155 Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Gastric Torsion/Bloat a real killer only 5% of dogs that develope this will survive most dogs are dead within hours...It always was my main paranioa ilness with my Greyhound boy (god rest his soul). Never ever feed before any exercise with a dog be it a fun run around your local park or run on the lamp it just isnt worth the risk. I was told also to give an hour after exercise before feeding too...never feed when straight back from a run due to panting and excess air build up in the guts. With Gastric Torsion/Bloat it is when your dog gets a full stomach and something as simple as jumping in or out of a chair can cause the stomach to swing a bit like a pendulem and if it happens to swing that bit too far it will go back on itself and cause the gut to twist - thus trapping air in the dogs guts/stomach/intestines or wherever. The dog then begins to develope a bloated look hence the name BLOAT where the stomach rapdily expands and sounds like a empty barrel when you tap it. Other symptoms also include a dog trying to vomit but bringing nothing up and salavating excessivly. Like i say not many dogs survive this condition and if these symptoms are spotted the dog should be at the vets within minutes because torsion/bloat can kill within a couple of hours...If your dog is lucky enough for the vet to be able to operate and save it then its a lesson learnt but if not - it equals a dead dog. This condition is far far more common than many people think and its a killer. I wudnt reccommend feeding before or straight after running or exercising any dog..jsut isnt worth the risk in my opinion Quote Link to post
highlander 0 Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 I feed my dogs late at night and after lamping I just give them extra the night before. Regards highlander. Quote Link to post
doxhope 2 Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 Sick I understand,dead??? Gastric torsion's a possibility mate. Ive never fed a dog before going lamping, and my thought would be you need a good kick op the arse if you did. Why single out lamping, how many coursing lads feed their dogs before a match, unless purposely 'stopping' them. I had a friend whose dog was running like shit, eventually found out his mother thought it was cruel not to feed it before going out, so she was, stopped her feeding it, and it got back to its best. Apart from running lurchers, Ive worked whippets, salukis and deerhounds. Deerhounds have always been noted for the problem of bloat/torsion, as this usually effects deep chested breeds. I would never feed my working deerhounds becasue of this. This week I lost a deerhound bitch through torsion like Ive said, I knew about it, but had never experienced it. Its fecking horrible :sick: I came back from mackerel fishing, dog wasnt looking well, checked her, belly swollen, sounding hollow and walking like a crab. Put her in her shed, went in the house for about 10 mins, checked dog again, she was now into the 3rd stage of bloat...and if anyone knows about this, death is immenent, not a thing you can do now..Heart rate well over 100, gums going white..I phoned vet, took her straihgt over, she died in the back of my car on the way there...The first and second stages of bloat can be very easily missed, even by experienced dog men..and people ask if a dog should be fed before it goes out I know, your going to say well my dog isnt a deerhound or deerhound cross..Makes no difference, feed any lurcher before going out before graft and your are asking for trouble.. Just burried meg last night..RIP Quote Link to post
doxhope 2 Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 feed same time - late each night or when you get in from lamping. Spot on matie Quote Link to post
FastDogz 155 Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 Sick I understand,dead??? Gastric torsion's a possibility mate. Ive never fed a dog before going lamping, and my thought would be you need a good kick op the arse if you did. Why single out lamping, how many coursing lads feed their dogs before a match, unless purposely 'stopping' them. I had a friend whose dog was running like shit, eventually found out his mother thought it was cruel not to feed it before going out, so she was, stopped her feeding it, and it got back to its best. Apart from running lurchers, Ive worked whippets, salukis and deerhounds. Deerhounds have always been noted for the problem of bloat/torsion, as this usually effects deep chested breeds. I would never feed my working deerhounds becasue of this. This week I lost a deerhound bitch through torsion like Ive said, I knew about it, but had never experienced it. Its fecking horrible :sick: I came back from mackerel fishing, dog wasnt looking well, checked her, belly swollen, sounding hollow and walking like a crab. Put her in her shed, went in the house for about 10 mins, checked dog again, she was now into the 3rd stage of bloat...and if anyone knows about this, death is immenent, not a thing you can do now..Heart rate well over 100, gums going white..I phoned vet, took her straihgt over, she died in the back of my car on the way there...The first and second stages of bloat can be very easily missed, even by experienced dog men..and people ask if a dog should be fed before it goes out I know, your going to say well my dog isnt a deerhound or deerhound cross..Makes no difference, feed any lurcher before going out before graft and your are asking for trouble.. Just meg last night..RIP Well said mate....And so sorry to hear of your deerhound R.I.P - Deerhound Quote Link to post
Phil Lloyd 10,738 Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 (edited) Edited September 1, 2007 by CHALKWARREN Quote Link to post
Guest Frank Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 Thanks for you experinces CW, good info. Frank. Quote Link to post
Guest Bunny Basher Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 (edited) I believe it takes around 9-12 hours for a dog to fully digest it's food if fed "kibble" based feed as it is much harder for the dogs system to digest so feeding a full meal anything later than noon may be asking for trouble if your out lamping before midnight the same day but on the otherhand "raw" only takes between 3-4 hours to digest for a dog so perhaps you could feed a little later this way Edited August 31, 2007 by Bunny Basher Quote Link to post
Morris 0 Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 Im the same as only a few lads on here, my dogs are fed early in the morning, usually 7-8 that way if i want to go out that night i can, i used to feed them daily at night but found they struggled with a lamp the following night. As the would not have been fed for 24 hours, and buy the time they got back its pushing 30-32 hours, Na can't see my dogs being at there best. But everyone has too know there own dog. Quote Link to post
allgame 0 Posted September 1, 2007 Report Share Posted September 1, 2007 at night late, if [bANNED TEXT] feed them good quality dry food or bunny they seem to have enough energy to go the night to me but i guess it depends on the dog the way there ran and if you keep them penned or on a chian or if [bANNED TEXT] just let them run around the backyard i keep mine chained so they dont use energy (i let them off for a few hours a day) and then there ok to run Quote Link to post
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