raw feeding

[daz1976 8]

when feeding a raw diet what fruit and veg do you feed?

do you feed it at the same time as raw?

do you feed it whole,mashed,choped etc

does anyone cook the veg first?

how often do you add it?

how much do you add?

cheers daz

Edited October 17, 2007 by daz1976

[Guest Ditch_Shitter]

I don't really conciously go out of my way to add any fruit or veg myself, Daz. But if, like the other couple of nights for example, I have brusel sprouts? All the trimmings get steamed in the dish below my own sprouts and these I share out amongst my Dogs as a treat. They all love them.

 

In the days when my steamer was almost always on, I'd steam cabbage for them most days and add that to their meat. I haven't made a habit of that for a couple of years now and it's made no differance to them.

 

Just a couple of points possibly worth mentioning though; I do consider it important that we should par boil or steam such veg. Espeacially things like the thicker leaf stems within cabbage. Even carrots. Reason I say this is because, in my experience, Dogs better digest and absorb that which has been so treated. The 'cooking' action breaks down the fibres of the vegetative matter and softens it. Otherwise a lot of such stuff simply comes out much as it went in.

 

Banannas, by the way. Never yet found a Dog that won't sit for a slice of bananna

 

Best to avoid onion and raisins though. Doctors differ about onions ~ I choose not to experiment with my Dogs lives to force such points. But raisins, they reckon, will kill a Dog, period. I won't have either in my house.

[cúagusgiorraí 57]

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Edited August 31, 2008 by cúagusgiorraí

[socks 32,253]

have a look at the list below and that will give you a good idea of whet to feed and what not to feed ... i feed all mine raw as fruite and veg will lose vitamins and minerals even if lightly steamed ... i generally just blend them up or run them through a mincer ... as a rough guide i give my dogs 2 fruite and 3 veg and i feed same as meat so a pound of meat = pound of mixed fruite and veg .......

 

Good Veggies' & Fruits to Feed

 

(Foods you can feel good about feeding. Add lots of green leafy vegetables)

 

Courgettes-

Romaine (COS) Lettuce - High nutritional value

Ice Berg Lettuce - has no nutritional value but is OK to feed. You can use

as a filler.

Tomatoes (avoid the leaves and stems) -

Carrots - These are high in sugars so be careful

Celery - Not much nutritional value but is a good diuretic.

Bok Choy -

Parsley-

Oranges -

Apples (not the seeds) -

peas-

Bananas -

Alfalpha Sprouts -

Bell Peppers (Capsicum) - red, green and yellow

Fresh Pumpkin (not the canned pie filling) -

Silver Beat -

Beet Root -

Kale -

Cilantro -

Mustard Greens -

Dandelions -

Marrow-

Yams -

Sweet Potatoes -

Asparagus -

Jicama (remove skin) -

Parsnip -

Turnips -

Sprouts -

 

Caution Veggies' & Fruits

(Foods you can feed but with cautions)

 

Garlic - fed in small amounts is very beneficial for your dog. It is

considered natures antibiotic. However, to much can cause anemia and upset

stomach. So when making your veggie mix, use 1-3 cloves but no more.

Grapes / raisins- (in high amounts) Dogs exhibit gastrointestinal problems,

including vomiting and diarrhea and then signs of kidney failure with an

onset of severe kidney signs starting about 24 hours after ingestion of the

grapes or raisins.

Eggplant - OK to feed the fruit but avoid any other parts. They can cause

upset stomach, drooling, lethargy, heart failure

Avocados (& leaves) - Stay away from the leaves. The fruit part is OK to

feed in small amounts.

Spinach, Swiss Chard, and Rhubarb - OK in small amounts. While these are not

toxic, they are high in oxalic acid, a compound that interferes with calcium

absorption, so don't feed these very often.

Cabbage/Broccoli/Cauliflower - OK to feed in small amounts but may cause

gas. If fed frequently and in large amounts these will depress the thyroid.

Potatoes –

 

Cautions: If your dog is diabetic or has arthritis and has/had cancer then

you may want to stay away from underground veggies because they convert to

starch/sugar which aggravates arthritis. Cancer cells also thrive on sugars.

 

Bad Veggies' & Fruits

 

(Foods to be avoided all together)

Onions & (onion powder) - upset stomach, and can cause Heinz body anemia.

[Neal 1,870]

Don't quote me on this but I've heard that grapes are a no-go too; no idea why though. I feed various fruit and veg, usually raw but sometimes cooked left-overs too. I put the raw through a juicer and then put the juice and pulp back together (not with sellotape). I then add egg, kelp, de-bittered brewers'yeast powder and flaxseed oil with some mince. Mmmmm, delicious!

Edited October 17, 2007 by Neal

[Guest Ditch_Shitter]

Grapes? So, what exactly are Raisins? (Not trying to be funny ~ I genuinely don't know! ) Only I Think they might be dried grapes?

 

Wonder what it is with grapes then?

[Neal 1,870]

D'oh! And me a primary school teacher; don't tell my class. Sorry Ditch!

[socks 32,253]

grapes and raisins are safe to feed in small amounts ... problems occure when large amounts are fed on a regular basis .... so unless you are giving your dog a bunch of grapes every other night then dont worry ............

[lost scouse 46]

what about cooked oats,pasta and maybe white rice for bulk any good

[daz1976 8]

my dog eats pasta and rice

[Guest Ditch_Shitter]

What's the LD50 on grapes for Dogs then, Socks?

 

I've heard grain's (oats, eg) no good for Dogs. I can't remember if it was supposed to be actively bad for them or if it was just a waste of time. I do know of a bloke who had a proper test done though and found that Bread simply passes through them without leaving any trace of nutrition behind. I guess ye could call that about the ultimate 'packer' then? I've certainly known some Bloody fit Digs recieve bread as part of their daily diet and it never harmed them.

 

Then again though; There should be Longer term health considered. What ye feed a Dog for a year or two may not make a world of differance. But keep on feeding it something a bit iffy and ye could end up shortening it's natural life span. Not an issue maybe, if ye want to view the animal as a disposable tool, to be " Tested " till it breaks, then got rid of. But if ye want ye Dog to stay around and retire as a rug rat? That's where the finer detail starts mattering more.

[ghengis 4]

been feeding dogs on barf for couple of years now,also my pup is on it,i give fruit and veg 3 times a week,no onion,garlic or grapes,but if he likes it he has it!

[sandymere 8,263]

Fruit and veg are part of a good balenced diet. I feed cooked as has been stated it easier to digest as the celluose cell walls are indegestable in the raw state so reducing the available nutrients and carbs as the cell contents are locked away inside. Mincing will break many cell stuctures but leave more untouched.

little note about cancer cells thriving on sugers- all cells thrive one sugers as they are the most easily used food source but sugers will not promote cancer cell growth.

Bread does not pass through without leaving any nutrients but will give protein, fat and carbs although it wouldn't be my choice for a dog. Baked brown bread was often used for racers in the past as it is similer to dog meal but cheaper when day old.

[Neal 1,870]

The reason I use a juicer is because it's supposed to do a better job of breaking down the cells to make the nutrients etc available. I've never used a mixer or food processor though so can't give an unbiased comparison, it was simply a case of that's what I read in a book so used it and it seems to do the job ok ie it looks pretty much like fresh tripe to me!